Sham homeschools are fostering a radical right wing fifth column

Until the 1980s homeschooling was a benign activity that affected very few children. After homeschooling became dominated by right wing Christian theocrats, millions of vulnerable children (estimates are suspect because of poor reporting requirements) became virtual prisoners in their own homes, pawns in a scheme to overthrow the United States Government and replace it with a theocracy. The theocrats scheme includes lobbying state legislatures, pressing free exercise of religion cases in the courts and collusion with extreme right wing Republican officials. The result is an almost total lack of oversight by government officials. It will require dedication for the new administration to undo the Bush administration handiwork.

Legitimate homeschools are in league with the sham homeschools because they also want to prohibit any kind of oversight or control. Although the legitimate people have a small public voice, the radical right are loaded with resources and lobbyists.

The Supreme Court gave parents the right to teach children the tenets and the practices of their faith back in 1944. (Prince v. Massachusetts, 321 U.S. 158, 164 (1944). The Prince decision, together with the Yoder vs Wisconsin decision inspired theocratic zealots to create a rebellious strain of home schooling. Lead by radicals, this movement is creating a virtual fifth column of ignorant children raised to hate democracy and to revile and distrust their government institutions. In this way, the theocrats are systematically grooming innocent children through a staged process involving homeschools, a project called Generation Joshua and the Patrick Henry College. Their aim is to quietly infiltrate, hamper, frustrate and then dismantle the government of the United States and establish a theocracy according to Dominionist theology. The theocrats plan seems to be working because the Bush administration opened the doors of government to Patrick Henry College graduates while the general public has taken little notice. But then, the devious theocrats are anything but honest and above board. They are like cockroaches, termites and other vermin that hide out of sight. They will not advocate a public position because they know they cannot win an honest public debate.

No one contemplated the political power extreme right wing Christians would usurp in the latter decades of the 20st century. Nor, how they would first systematically attack the public school system and then in frustration, how they would begin to withdraw their children from public schools in astonishing numbers. Able to mobilize thousands of parents to swamp legislatures with denial of service calls and emails, they steam rolled their agenda of removing truancy laws across the country. There was little or no opposition from the federal or state governments, who depend upon reliable telephone and Internet connections to operate. Denial of service attacks combined with bare knuckle political threats became weapons of choice and are still used today. HSLDA even brags about their success in hampering the functioning of government.

With sequestered children constantly supervised by zealous despotic parents, the indoctrination of a backward debauched religion can take place 24 hours a day seven days a week. Out of sight, the indoctrination goes unnoticed. The unfortunate children’s parents rigorously shield them from civilian authority, and they are not allowed to associate with anyone that has not been pre-approved. Parents heavily monitor and restrict radio, television, movies, the Internet and live entertainment events. When legal problems threaten, parents use the threadbare guise of sacrosanct religious liberty and call on well heeled advocacy groups like Michael Farris’s Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA), Focus on the Family, The Pacific Justice Institute, and The Eagle Forum to name just a few far right heavily funded special interest groups of dubious character.

In these families, there will be no nonsense about Title 9 gender equality, or sex education or tolerance of other’s beliefs; parents are convinced they alone have the truth and all outsiders are Satan’s spawn that are going to hell. There is no effort to teach the children how to reason or make moral judgments based on logic; morality lessons consist of picked over biblical dogma.

This trend has been in place for nearly 20 years and has spawned a vast infrastructure of lobbyists, legal assistance groups, and purveyors of “approved” curriculum materials. Many curriculum materials advertise that they teach subjects in a “godly” way. Believe it or not there are even teaching materials that extend this pedagogy to mathematics!

Dr. Rob Reich (Professor of Political Science and Ethics at Stanford University ) explains what he considers is the major problem in terms of parents deliberately frustrating the development of autonomy in their children:

The problem with homeschooling and parental authority over education arises not out of conflicts over whether children should become independent adults. Few people wish to defend the authority of parents who plainly care too little. The problem arises over parents who, as it were, care too much in seeking to prevent the development of autonomy in their children. I mean to suggest that parents who wish to control the socialization of their children so completely as to instill inerrant beliefs in their own world view or unquestioning obedience to their own or others’ authority are motivated often by a fervent care for, not neglect of their children. Even when defined minimally, some parents may object to the idea that their children should receive an education that promotes their critical thinking and capacities for reflection on their own and other’s ends. Being minimally autonomous, I claimed, was in the interest of the child for personal and civic reasons. The fact that autonomy is necessary for citizenship makes education for autonomy an interest of the state as well. Thus, when parents reject the facilitation of autonomy in their children, they find themselves in conflict with both the interests of the child and of the state.

A measure of just how thoroughly the theocrats took control of the US Department of Education can be gained by the comments made by Jack Klenk, Director of the Office of Non Public Education at the U.S. Department of Education at a recent meeting sponsored by the Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA a vociferous foe of homeschool oversight ) and featuring eight congressional representatives . Here is part of the HSLDA report on their web site:

Mr. Klenk has served in the Department for over 20 years, and he talked about how he has seen homeschooling start and grow through the years. He also acknowledged that the Department of Education has heard the homeschool community’s message that the “federal government must leave homeschoolers alone,” and will honor that message. He closed by sharing his and the current administration’s belief that “homeschooling is good for children, good for families, and good for society.

Have we no right to expect impartial judgments emanating from such a high government official? Mr Klenk has hopefully departed to other pursuits by this time, if he has not been fired.

The corrupt Bush administration and his allied theocrats were determined to surreptitiously undermine and drag down the government of the United States. Accordingly, it should be obvious to Americans that the Obama administration must act decisively to regulate homeschools on an urgent basis.

Professor Rob Reich proposed the following provisional framework some years ago:

A PROVISIONAL REGULATORY FRAMEWORK FOR HOME SCHOOLING
Recall that the purpose of these regulations is to help ensure that the state’s interest in providing a civic education for children is met, and to protect the independent interest of the child in developing into a free or autonomous adult. … I propose three minimal regulations. The results of the democratic process might yield additional regulations, which would not necessarily be inconsistent with my views, but these seem to me the bare minimum, as follows:

1. All parents who home school must register with a public official. The state needs to be able to distinguish between truants and home-schooled students, and it needs a record that specific children are being home schooled so that its other regulations can be enforced.

2. Parents must demonstrate to educational officials that their homeschool curriculum meets some minimal standard. The minimal standard will include academic benchmarks as well as an assurance that children are exposed to and engaged with ideas, values, and beliefs that are different from those of the parents. For instance, every home-school curriculum should include information about a variety of religious traditions (I believe this should be the case, as well, for public and private schools.) Parents are free to teach their children that their own religious faith is the truth, but they cannot shield children from the knowledge that other people have different convictions and that these people are, from the standpoint of citizenship, their equals.

3. Parents must permit their children to be tested periodically on some kind of basic skills exam. Should home-schooled children repeatedly fail to make progress on this exam, relative to their public or private school peers, then a case could be made to compel school attendance. Label this educational harm. (The same kind of educational harm surely exists in some public schools, of course. And this is one reason that I believe parents should have the authority to hold the state accountable for public schools by pulling their children from failing schools and enrolling them elsewhere.) In short, these regulations amount to the following:

• The state registers who is being home schooled.
• The state insists upon a curriculum that meets minimal academic standards and that introduces students to value pluralism.
• The state tests students periodically to ensure that minimal academic progress is being made.

Would many home schools be unable to meet these regulations? …. If creating and enforcing regulations would prevent even a few children from suffering educational harm or from receiving an education that stunted or disabled their freedom, the regulations would be worthwhile. Strictly enforced regulations ensure that parents do not wield total and unchecked authority over the education of their children. What is at stake here is not a question of social utility or stability, whether home schooling could threaten democracy. What is at stake is the justice that we owe children, that they receive an education that cultivates their future citizenship, their individual freedom, and that teaches them at least basic academic skills, skills that are necessary for ably exercising both their citizenship and their freedom.”

I wish I could be as sanguine as Rob Reich, because our democracy could clearly be at risk if millions of compromised children continue to go through this warped religious soaked system. In addition, why settle for minimum standards?

http://www.alternet.org/belief/142384/an_army_of_home-schooled_?comments=view&cID=1315745&pID=1315701#c1315745

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week1020/cover.html

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7630851222567912489#docid=5881186192356745364
God’s Next Army
Documentary about Patrick Henry College for homeschooled evangelical children.

http://www.truthout.org/article/christian-reconstructionists-trying-take-dominion-america

http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={1F86E588-AA4A-43A1-998D-D9BF4FBE4D09} Michael Farris brags about denial of service attack.

About Michael Farris and sham home schools:
http://a2zhomeschool.com/homes

Purge of Professors at Patrick Henry
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/5/26/83129/0021

http://www.publiceye.org/christian_right/dominionism.htm

Reports on the web include:
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm#_edn14

http://www.theocracywatch.org/

http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v19n3/clarkson_dominionism.html

http://www.theocracywatch.org/chris_hedges_nov24_04.htm

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/1/5/155457/0298

http://a2zhomeschool.com/homeschool/2009/06/16/reconstruction-theology-and-home-education/

Books

American Fascists, The Christian Right and The War on America, by Chris Hedges

Kingdom Coming, The Rise of Christian Nationalism by Michelle Goldberg

American Theocracy, The Peril and Politics of Radical Religion, Oil, and Borrowed Money in the 21stCentury by Kevin Philips

http://www.beacon.org/productdetails.cfm?PC=2047

Write These Laws on Your Children: Inside the World of Conservative Christian Homeschooling
Author: Robert Kunzman
Product Code: 3291 ISBN: 978-080703291-6
Copyright Date Ed: 08/01/2009

A compelling look at conservative Christian homeschooling families—and the worldview that could radically alter American political and intellectual life.

Reports on the web include:
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm#_edn14

http://www.theocracywatch.org/

http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v19n3/clarkson_dominionism.html

http://www.theocracywatch.org/chris_hedges_nov24_04.htm

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/1/5/155457/0298

http://a2zhomeschool.com/homeschool/2009/06/16/reconstruction-theology-and-home-education/

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I think I've been homeschooling all wrong! To think, I voted for Obama and let my children out of the house… gasp!

Less than 1% of all children are homeschooled. A large number of those children are homeschooled by liberal parents (like mine). The children of conservative homeschoolers, even those "kept virtual prisoner in their home", are still out performing their publicly schooled counterparts on standardized tests. Education should be *one* of Obama's top priorities, yes, but not homeschool regulation. That's just dumb. Consider that much of our economic downfall is the fault of people who couldn't do the math when they applied for a home mortgage, or can't hold a job because they're illiterate or just lazy, then finger the real blame – public education.

Wesley

You guys are ridiculous. You try to pull any of this bullshit and the ACLU will be all over your asses. Religion is protected by many facets of our government and, whether you like it or not, has not been wiped out by any regimes over the face of history. The ability to homeschool is also a parents prerogative whether or not the individual is religious, and the ability to talk about one's religion is protected by law along with the ability to talk about other issues such as sexuality or other so called "controversial" topics. You destroy the freedom of religion, and then any and all other freedoms will eventually fail.

Joseph Alm

I almost gave into the evil scheme to stalk the dark corridors of power. Apparently, I am an "ignorant child raised to hate democracy," a "devious theocrat," and "vermin." I feel a deep sense of horror from this article. I repent from my evil ways.

You see, I am a Patrick Henry student. For the record, I thought I was significantly more intelligent than the grandstanding fool who wrote this article: I have received a 178 LSAT, lead the nation in moot court, and have started my own non-profit educational corporation. I see now that I was wrong.

How could I be right? Mr. Collins uses such words as "extreme right wing" and "systematic attacks" to reference me, and "zealous [and] despotic" to refer to my parents. He must be right! After all, those words are so emotionally charged, how can reason defeat them?

Joseph Alm

So from someone who is ruled by a rational mind, rather than irrational paranoia, here is something to consider. Patrick Henry students almost unviersally embrace the concept of liberty as one of the most important values extant in America.

Proper Christianity underscores the need for individual liberty. It is the individual who is responsible to God, not society as a whole. It is the individual who chooses their actions. Forcing individuals to do what is right is unproductive, and often counterproductive.

Joseph Alm

Mr. Collin's absurd association of home-schoolers with Dominionist theology is quite the half-baked conspiracy theory. Dominionist theology, especial Rush Dooney, desires to reconstruct American history and reshape American government. Patrick Henry College, and most home-schoolers I know, desire neither. I desire to understand American history from primary sources, with all its pain and glory. I do not believe America was a Christian nation, but I believe it, just like most of Western Civilization, was founded on Judeo-Christian principles and values. I do not want to reshape American government. I want American government to more closely match its constitutional bounds.

Don't panic when you hear a crazy man tell you everyone will die if you don't supress a people group. Just dismiss him as a nut and move on.

Feel honored, Mr. Collins, your vaccuous vitriol was definitely not worth this much critique.

Doc,
I have searched for a credible source of data that would reveal how many of the Christian homeschools are really what I call sham homeschools. Perhaps I should revise this post to make the point stand out. Looking at census data the number of people who give the reason they homeschool would lead one to believe these families number in the hundreds of thousands. It has been a while since I looked at this. The debate between efficacy of home schools vs public schools is really big enough for another post and another debate.

I was positive a few PH alumni would respond. I am not disappointed. Michael Farris has tried to cover up his links to the CNP and dominionist theology, but not successfully. The evidence is out there for people to examine. For Joseph to deny that the goal of Farris is to see that Christians, and him in particular, run the country on a dictatorial basis does not comport with public facts about him.

Proper Christianity underscores the need to obey secular authority.“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s” Or do you object to the doctrine of separation of church and state?

If you want to continue in this discussion, and I hope you will, I will warn you to be respectful. If you feel slighted by my characterization of zealous and despotic parents churning our a filth column, then don't put on the shoe. I have not met your parents.

You need to be a little more specific if we are to understand your exact objections. I am well aware of the first amendment. Where do I say in my post that we should "wipe out" religion?

And those "constitutional bounds" . are?

Jonathan

Mr. Collins, while I don't have the resume of my PHC classmate Joseph, I would like to throw my hat into the ring.

Have you ever met a PHC student before? If not, I am volunteering to take you to lunch, mainly so that I can apologize for whatever terrible thing some homeschooler must've done to you or someone you loved in order to evoke such a strong hatred for the homeschooling community.
"But then, the devious theocrats are anything but honest and above board. They are like cockroaches, termites and other vermin that hide out of sight." I can only assume that at some point a homeschooling family's van must have run over your family's pet or something of that nature.

You've implied that homeschoolers, more specifically their parents, are on a religious crusade to tear apart the American framework piece by piece until the only thing left standing is the newly-crowned King, Michael Farris. This sort of surprises me, I have to be honest. Mainly because, during my three years at PHC, I've never been taught (or even vaguely encouraged) to destroy the foundation of my country. Maybe I'm not smart enough to be one of the chosen saboteurs (I was only 3rd in the nation in moot court, after all). Apparently however, for you, the mere fact that my well-educated parents chose to homeschool me rather than throw me into the public school system (oh, and what a glorious public school system it is too) renders me a conspirator in the plot to tear apart America.

I believe President Obama would agree with me when I say, thus far, the government has done an atrocious job of educating its youth. The public school system is a disaster (am I breaking news here?). From a purely practical stand point (in other words, disregarding religious preference, conspiracies, attempts to shelter kids from the evils that are HS cheerleaders) homeschooling seems to work. Not for every kid, in every situation, mind you. But, at least in the case of the PHC students who were homeschooled, it worked. By worked, I mean, if the purpose of any educational process (homeschool, private, parochial, public, etc.) is to produce a well-educated (as defined by standardized tests / college proficiency) young men and women, then it worked.

Some homeschoolers are sheltered to an extreme extent. Some publicschoolers take guns to school. I guess it's the broad strokes you're using to paint the homeschooling community that's the most worrisome. But, I may be unfairly holding you to a higher standard because you seem well-educated; after all, in this context you're just a blogger blogging about his feelings.

I was positive a few PH alumni would respond. I am not disappointed. Michael Farris has tried to cover up his links to the CNP and dominionist theology, but not successfully. The evidence is out there for people to examine. For Joseph to deny that the goal of Farris is to see that Christians, and him in particular, run the country on a dictatorial basis does not comport with public facts about him.

See the recently added links at the bottom of the post.

Tot be clear I am aiming at Michael Farris. To imply as you are doing that my post is against homeschools is simply inaccurate if not intellectually dishonest. The Dominionists are the target and Farris is a dominionist. A megalomanic actually.

Jonathan

I'm sorry if I "implied" that your post was against homeschools. I MEANT that it was against homeschools.

If you think that's intellectually dishonest, I suggest you re-naming (or at least re-reading) the title of this post:
"HOMESCHOOL regulation must be a top priority for the Obama administration"

I'm sorry, but not until the last few paragraphs of your lengthy post do you mention Michael Farris. I understand completely if your intent WAS to focus on Farris but you did a pretty shoddy job of conveying that to your reader. May I suggest titling your post, "Extreme megalomaniac Farris attempting to indoctrinate millions!" or something more specific if that was indeed your intent.

I assumed that the Farris section was merely a subplot to your main point which is homeschool regulation. Sorry if I made an ass-out-of-u-and-me there.

I'll consider you points for the next edit.
Thanks

Wow, what an amazing, insightful, and completely ridiculous work of fiction! Your intolerance of those with different philosophical outlooks on life than your own is astounding, and speaks volumes about your integrity and credibility.

Home School Dad

Thanks! This is really interesting reading in clear examples of religious bigotry. And if you had "the power", religious persecution as well. Keep up your fine effort. It makes great canon fodder for the homeschool masses in reminding them their freedoms will never be secure. I will also use it, along with other material, as examples of the beliefs of others. In your case, a clear example of "state worship", since you advocate the idea that all rights originate with government, all activities must be approved by government, and government creates and owns all children.

May our LIving God shower you contiually with His eternal love and grace.

You say, "The Supreme Court gave parents the right to teach children the tenets and the practices of their faith back in 1944. (Prince v. Massachusetts, 321 U.S. 158, 164 (1944)."

No, sir, it did no such thing. The Supreme court has no such power- this is an inalienable right recognized by all freedom loving peoples, and the Supreme court merely *recognized* that reality and simply added a recognition of those limitations on what the state could do to interfere to case law.

Proper Christianity underscores the need to obey secular authority.“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”

My children are certainly not, never have been, and never will be, Caesar's.

In regard to testing, when the public schools are able to educate children who can read and write instead of giving diplomas to illiterates, when their students can actually all test at or above the fiftieth percentile, when Chicago's public schools do not have a drop out rate of more than 55 percent, then maybe an argument insisting that the same institutions that are graduating thousands and thousands of illiterate students (it's approximately 1/4 of public schooled GRADUATES who are functionally illiterate) each year should have the right to impose the standards they fail to meet on the only group that consistently beats public schools at their own game- homeschoolers can read and write, and only a small subset of them are 'dominionists-' in fact, I suspect you will find far more dominionists in the more regulated private schools than home schools.

About 1 or 2 percent of all children are homeschooled at any given time (most are not homeschooled all the way through school). They can all read, yet about 25 percent of high school graduates from our public schools cannot read. 30 percent of college students have to take remedial courses because they do not have basic math skills nor can they read well enough for college work.

Right now there are more illiterate kids being defrauded of any education by the government and graduated with diplomas but no reading skills *each year* than the total number of homeschoolers. If you really cared about the kids, I think you'd do something about the millions who cannot read rather than the 1 or 2 percent who can read, who, as a group, consistently outscore the public school students, but also happen to include a subset of people whose religion you don't like.

Ack. though I closed that tag.

mercyorbemoaned

Oh come on, everybody knows that Michael Farris is a CIA plant and HSLDA is COINTELPRO for white people. How else is the NWO going to keep the Scots-Irish pacified?

Fiction? This is not about "philosophical outlooks" it is about a cancerous growth on our democracy.

If homeschoolers read this they can decide which category they fall into: seditionists or uncle Toms. I have no illusions that the seditionists will be frightened by what they find. Their camp followers might reconsider what they are doing when they oppose regulations.

You have a strange view of our democracy.

jane

For the record, the United States is a constitutional republic not a democracy. And actually you sound sheltered – you are totally misinformed when it comes to homeschooling, Mr. Collins.

Virtual prisoners in their own home? With their parents? I guess better that than prisoners of the public school system. Watch out, before you know it hoards of brainwashed kids will be storming the government. Save us Obama, save us!

Let's consider this axiomatically:…
1. The government of a locality is the largest dealer in interpersonal violence in that locality (definition), 2. People do not become more intelligent, more altruistic, or better-informed when they enter the State's employ.
3. Most parents love their children and want their children to outlive them.
4. If you live among people, there are basically three ways to make a living:…
a) you can beg,
b) you can steal,
c) you can trade goods and services for other people's goods and services.
5. Most parents accept proposition 4 and prefer 4 c for their children.
6. Therefore, most parents want for their individual children what taxpayers want for children, generally; that education prepare children to make their way in the world.
7. The interests of school employees differ systematicaly from the interests of children, parents and taxpayers.

Please read this Marvin Minsky comment on schooling.

Demonstration of point 7.
It does not take 12 years at $9,000 per pupil-year to teach a normal child to read and compute.
Most vocational training occurs more effectively on the job than in a classroom.
State (government, generally) provision of History, Economics, Civics, or "social studies" instruction is a threat to democracy, just as State operation of newspapers would be (is, in totalitarian countries). The "public" (i.e., government) school system has become an employment program for dues-paying members of the NEA/AFT/AFSCME cartel, a source of padded construction and supplies contracts for politicaly-connected insiders, and a venue for State-worshipful indoctrination. If this is not so, why cannot any student take, at any age, an exit exam ( the GED will do) and apply the taxpayers' age 6-18 education subsidy toward post-secondary tuition or toward a wage subsidy at any qualified (say, has filed W-2 forms on at least three adult employees for at least the previous four years) private-sector employer?

Mark Hausam

I thought I'd say a word about the attack on Christian reconstructionism/dominionism. Mr. Collins seems to feel that Christian reconstructionist theology is a dangerous evil that must be suppressed by forbidding parents to teach it to their children (or at least he comes close to saying that). Whatever happened to the concept of freedom of religion? Reconstructionist theology is very unpopular in this day and age, but I thought that one of the goals of the First Amendment was to protect, not persecute, minority beliefs. Christian reconstructionism advocates a belief system that is contrary to the goals of a lot of people, but it does not advocate violence or unlawful behavior–rather the opposite. Wouldn't it be nice if we could engage our ideological opponents in civil and respectful dialogue instead of dismissing them as "vermin" like some Nazi propaganda film? There is simply no need for such behavior. The reconstructionists themselves are more than happy to engage in respectful dialogue.

If you want to know more about them, the wikipedia article on Christian Reconstructionism is a good start::
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Reconstruc...

Mark Hausam

IrishDude

Yes! Let's fight over a blog post! Everyone post your thesis. They say that five-thirds of all bloggers change their minds after reading the comments.

Maybe we can convince Mr. Collins to change his mind if we flaunt our SAT scores at him. Better yet, let's all spend valuable hours of the day constructing a reply to this! Be sure to include Latin words so you sound smart. Oh! And throw in a quote or two from Burke or something, that'll convince him.

I truly did enjoy the column Mr. Collins. Thank you for your research and opinion on the matter.

Ms.X

Lol, if you have to ask you wouldn't understand. It's a freedom thing.

It takes hours to construct a reply to this? In what universe?
And what research? It appears to me he just made stuff up, especially his numbers.

Reading the comments of all the people defending homeschools rather makes my point. They want to discuss the benefits of legitimate home schools and don't want to think about the sham homeschools. Or, they have nothing to post except insults for me. If you cannot think of a legitimate rebuttal attack the messenger. Only one or two people quoted anything from my article and I happily corrected the title to conform to one critique.

So if you feel like responding, please try to find a specific point to rebut and write a rational critique, preferably substantiated in some way. Believe it or not, I actually want informed criticism. Every writer does. Send me some facts please. I ignore posts that only contain opinions.

If you don't see people here rebutting your points, you're not reading very clearly. In addition to what's already been said, here are some other points:

1. You made up a figure out of whole cloth for how many so called 'sham' homeschools there are- and this has been pointed out. You are advocating an unconstitutional government intervention to correct a 'problem' that simply is not anywhere near as large as you claimed. You have not proven that Dominionists do not educate their children. You have not proven there are very many of them. You have not proven that Michael Farris is a Dominionist. You have not proven that if he is, that should somehow be illegal. You have succeeded in sounding like a McCarthyite talking about pinkos.

2. The number of 'sham' public schools, that is, public schools that actually fail to educate the children in their care is much, much larger then the entire number of children educated by any other method, simply because the vast majority of children are in public schools and those public schools are failing so badly.. You will improve the lives of more children and by a huge multiplier, in fixing the known problems of public schools rather than focusing time and attention on the mythical 'sham' problems you made up without any evidence.

3. You do not define 'sham' homeschools based on educational attainments, but merely on the fact that you do not like a particular philosophy/theology. As others have pointed out, even uber scary dominionists score better on assessment tests than public schooled children. That is one serious flaw in your argument. The other is the idea that your like or dislike of a tiny minority (if that) of homeschooling philosophies justifies draconian and unnecessary regulation of ALL homeschools is another serious flaw.

4. You say, "Why should we settle for minimum standards" as though that is an indictment of homeschooling ( or the made up 'sham' homeschooling), yet you seem to be completely unaware of how devastating this is for your argument. Homeschoolers, you see, do NOT settle for minimum standards. They consistently outscore their publicly educated peers. It's the public schools that can continue to exist and to graduate uneducated children with recognized and accepted diplomas based on 'minimum' standards (or sub minimum in some cases), and yet suck in more funding all the while.

5. You argued in the comments that somehow 'render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's' is an argument in favor of government regulation of the educational interactions of parents and children. When it is pointed out to you that children are not, never have been, and never will be 'Caesar's,' at least not in THIS country, instead of replying with substantive defense, you merely bluster, "you have a strange idea about democracy." Well, no, actually- anybody who thinks that children are the creatures of the STATE has a bizarre idea about democracy or representative republics. In both forms of government, it's exactly the other way around- the government belongs to the people. We do not belong to it.
Instead of a weak 'nyah, nyah, nyah, that's WEIRD' argument, how about attempting to demonstrate with factual, logical, reasoned discourse explaining why the children belong to Caesar according to the Constitution and form of government in this country? Probably because you can't. "That's weird" is not a reasonable or logical argument for anything.

IrishDude- that took me ten minutes, for what it's worth.

Mrs. Taft

"I ignore posts that only contain opinions. Unless, of course, they are favorable"

Well, that about sums it up. ;) We can't grow unless we consider both sides…if you only surround yourself with yes-men, you aren't being properly challenged!

I understand you'd like substantiated claims…but maybe people didn't realize you were looking for facts and not experiences and opinions because you have yet to substantiate yours. So far, all I find is your opinion and conjecture; and that, barely masking a steep and hardly impartial bias against religion and homeschooling. So now you are hearing from people who homeschool or have been homeschooled, and this is the best you can come up with? Please. ;)

"The social structure advocated by Christian Reconstructionism would have the clergy, laity and government, individually and corporately, to be in ultimate submission to the moral principles of the Bible." Wikipedia entry

I don't think this is exactly what the people who wrote the Bill of Rights and specifically the first amendment had in mind.

"While many Christians believe that biblical law is a guide to morality and public ethics, when interpreted in faith, Reconstructionism is unique in advocating that civil law should be derived from and limited by biblical law. For example, they support the recriminalization of acts of abortion and homosexuality, but also oppose confiscatory taxation, conscription, and most aspects of the welfare state. Protection of property and life needs grounding in biblical law, according to Reconstructionism, or the state set free from the restraint of God's law will take what it wishes at a whim. Accordingly, Reconstructionists advocate biblically derived measures of restitution, a definite limit upon the powers of taxation, and a gold standard or equivalent fixed unit for currency." Wikipedia entry

Can you see Congress debating these fine points of Michael Farris's views? These people are on the public record of advocating death for gays. Recriminalization of homosexuality would mean the death penalty in these insane people's view. He and his cronies would of course be in charge of carrying out such judgments.

Michael Farris is shewed enough to realize that such inhumane and insane policies will never be adopted in a free democratic society. That is why Farris does not believe in democracy or government by the people. Instead, reconstructionists have adopted the devious underground strategy of brainwashing vulnerable children and using them as tools. Could anything be more reprehensible?

"… our democracy could clearly be at risk if millions of compromised children continue to go through this warped religious soaked system. In addition, why settle for minimum standards?"

And you don't believe this is also true about the public school system, Mr. Collins? There's so much I could say in response to this article, but, for time sake, here are some things I chose to discuss.

If the above quote were isolated from your article and put into multiple choice as follows:
a. homeschooling
b. public schooling
c. private schooling

I bet the majority would choose b., especially since the majority of American children are under the public school system (“millions”). Every system has some type of religion/worldview. It is unavoidable. Currently, the public school system is "soaked" in relativism & humanism (and probably others I didn't mention). Standards are low and millions of children are receiving an unimpressive education. Just talk to colleges and employers.

It's no wonder the home school movement has grown, and there's nothing wrong with this movement's actions either. Everyone has the opportunity to influence the culture in some way- it's a fact of life.

As a people, we are never going to fully agree on how things should be run, so that's why the majority rules. Those involved shape the future. I don't blame people who are making a strategic impact- I do it too. And, I'd encourage you to do the same. Don't blame "right wing Christian theocrats" for influencing the culture (basically what your article covers and how you disagree with it). They're doing what anyone else would do: promoting their beliefs/worldview/religion. I'd encourage you to stop complaining about their actions, because they aren't doing anything wrong. You just disagree with them and don't like the fact that they're being effective. Am I right?

And who said religion is bad for the society? Last time I looked, moral standards help individuals make a positive impact on the world & moral standards keep us from utter chaos. I don't know about you, but I'd rather live with people who have morals than people who don't. I value character.

You would do well to study the arguments of those homeschool parents who have chosen to sacrifice much in order to raise their children in the way they think they should go, and not the way the government thinks their children should go. That takes guts. The government does NOT own people's children. The parents, “own” their children. Are you a parent Mr. Collins? This concept would make more sense if you were. People teach their kids everything else, so why not their education too? Seems reasonable to me… not too mention a better alternative to public school education.

As a side note, I think your communication could be more effective and persuasive if you removed your inflammatory language and backed off on emotive rhetoric. Much of your writing sounded quite absurd & outlandish because of the way you communicated your thoughts. You don't want to turn off your readers. Thanks for getting a good discussion going though!

P.S. Have you ever met and talked with homeschoolers? I've always been very impressed by the majority of them (education, lives, accomplishments, character, attitude, goals) and wonder why you have such a negative perspective of this schooling method.

IrishDude

I'm impressed. Your eloquence is surpassed only by your humility.

Dori Anderson

This is a farce right? Surely no one could believe this article to be the product of a rational, serious mind.

Actually useless opinionated ranting.

Which madeup figure are you referring to? I said the numbers were debateable and are only estimates. It is a fact that the census data shows 75% of parents say there reason for homeschooling was religion. Until the laws are strenghtened regarding reporting no one can say with certainty how many children are sequestered for religious "education" purposes.

I care less how homeschooled children spell or score on tests. That is totally beside the point. Why are they locked away from society?

Your pointless point about Caesar has no bearing. The proposed minimum regulations were specified in the post. What specifically is wrong with these minimum regulations?

Secular authorities, the state, has every right to protect the rights of it's citizens and children are citizens.

One more time, this is not a debate about the quality of homeschool education. Got that. It is a debate about depriving children of their autonomy to make decisions about who they will have as friends. what they will read, what music they will listen to, what internet sites they can visit and everything about to do with imprisoning children. What is happening to them is child abuse.

Beyond Reason

Again, the US is NOT a democracy… it is a Federal Republic with a strong history of democracy. You'd do well to look up the definition of democracy.

So what should the penalty be for those who refuse to comply?

Socialists like Mr. Collins are as religious as any Christian or Muslim. Socialism is "The God that Failed". Christians threaten me with Hell and Socialists threaten me with prison. Since I don't believe in Hell and I do believe in prison, I fear Socialists more than I fear Christians.

In the US the term "the public school system" denotes the policy which compels attendance at school, compels taxation to pay for schools, and restricts parents' options for the use of the taxpayers' pre-college education subsidy to schools operated by government employees. This policy originated in religious intolerance and anti-Catholic bigotry.

This is what defenders of "the public school system" protect.

You write the way it suits you and I'll write the way it suits me. This is a polemic, you know.

Could you possibly be more vague?

Did you miss all the URLs cited at the end of the post? Read those and then see what you think.

Andy P

Mr Collins
I think God is talking to you. First step read America's Constitution carefully and then step 2 visit some home schooled kids and then step 3 pray to receive Jesus as your personal savior. Then maybe if you have taken the 3rd step to take the free gift from Jesus then you might know what your talking about. Right now you are lost. I will be praying for you.

I know god is not talking to me Andy. Don't be so bloody daft.

What does this have to do with dominionist theology. Why are you changing the subject?

Socialism is "The God that Failed". You have to compare something to something. Compare costs and benefits of the available options. Some homeschoolers will teach their children strange things. Some State (government, generally) teachers will teach their students strange things. You imagine a systematic threat from a fringe religion. Socialism is mainstream religion in Colleges of Education, and the threat of indoctrination into State-worship is real.

I was raised in no church. I am no more a Christian than I am a Buddhist, Hindu, or Muslim. Christians threaten me with Hell and Socialists threaten me with prison. Since I don't believe in Hell and I do believe in prison, I fear Socialists more than I fear Christians.

Dude: "I'm impressed."
You should be. Visit her site. The Headmistress' considerable eloquence is surpassed by her work ethic and compassion.

[...] Sham homeschools are fostering a radical right wing fifth column … [...]

Home-School Pride

Dude you need to stop hitting the acid. I had to remove my child from public school because the school standards were so low. He is reading at the 3rd grade level and he is only 6 years old. He would have been sitting in a classroom watching other kids learn what he already knows year after year. The district like many others do not practice differentiated learning. It would have been educational neglect on their part and mine. My home is more equipped than a public school. He learns more in the summer months than he would learn in an entire school year. Public schools are really just educational welfare. Everyone pays for public schools whether they use them or not just like medicaid and social security. People who are unable or unwilling to educate their children use public schools. It is for the most part a blue collar education, and the world already has enough oil changers at walmart. Maybe we could reverse the unemployment rates with a few more entrepreneurs, and less worker bees. This is just one of the many reasons why public schools should not be an educational authority. In a few more years the graduates of this country will be planting beans in Mexico.

George

I thought this was a legitimate site, and the article genuine, then I saw your link at the top of the screen for a Home Schooling Site, and also found one for Quantum Jumping.
Seems a little hypocritical.
I had book marked your site, but now I have second thoughts, but now will probably receive all sorts of SPAM because I left my email address.

The site is legitimate, and the links you are referring to are probably ads (which are selected by Google based on the page content). Your email address will NOT be spammed.

THREE KEY POINTS ABOUT HOMESCHOOLING

1. We don’t have any comprehensive data about U.S. homeschoolers nationally: total number of homeschoolers, learning outcomes, or anything else.

The broadest set of data we have comes from the National Center for Education Statistics (NCES), but even that large-scale study likely doesn't provide a full picture, as many homeschoolers are strongly opposed to any sort of governmental oversight of their efforts, and therefore refuse to participate in any data-gathering attempts (the 2003 NCES survey, for instance, had a 58% refusal rate).

2. Claims that the "average homeschooler" outperforms public and private school students are simply not justified.

This is not to claim that homeschoolers underperform, either–the simple fact is that no studies exist that draw from a representative, nationwide sample of homeschoolers.

Nevertheless, a 1999 study by Lawrence Rudner is frequently cited by homeschooler advocates as definitive evidence that homeschoolers academically outperform public and private school students. But as the study’s author himself acknowledges, the homeschool participants (unlike the public school students’ scores) were an unrepresentative sample, and it was not a controlled experiment. Among a range of inconsistencies, the study drew only from homeschoolers who elected to take these tests through a Bob Jones University standardized testing program (in which parents typically administer the exams to their own children), then compared this narrow slice of homeschoolers to national averages for public and private school students. Even with the caveats Rudner offered in his analysis, the study came under heavy peer critique in the same academic journal in which his findings appeared.

In August 2009, the Home School Legal Defense Association publicized a new study comparing the standardized test scores of 11,739 homeschoolers to those of public school students. Despite HSLDA's assertions to the contrary, this study suffers from many of the same methodological weaknesses as the 1999 Rudner study. In particular, the homeschoolers who responded to HSLDA's invitation can hardly be considered representative of the broader homeschool population: the sample only includes the subset of homeschoolers who use standardized tests, and it draws almost entirely (95%) from those who self-identify as Christian. While HSLDA claims that "the overwhelming majority of parents did not know their children's test results before agreeing to participate in the study," it's also reasonable to assume that many parents whose homeschooling is subpar would not be willing to share those scores (whether they know them in advance or not), or would avoid testing altogether. It's also worth pointing out that homeschool parents can administer these tests themselves, making it possible to create very different testing conditions from what public school students experience.

Again, my argument is not that homeschoolers as a whole underperform other students–we just don't know, despite HSLDA's claims about the "average homeschooler."

3. There is no such thing as a "typical homeschooler."

Even without comprehensive demographic data, it seems clear from more limited studies and abundant anecdotal accounts that describing the typical homeschooler is about as difficult as describing the typical public school student. Homeschoolers come from all walks of life, and families choose this education option for a variety of reasons—NCES data suggest that "concern about environment of other schools" and "to provide religious or moral instruction" are parents' most common motivations.

Support and advocacy organizations serve almost every demographic imaginable. A quick check on-line, for instance, lists groups for disabled, Jewish, Latino, Catholic, Seventh Day Adventist, Mormon, single-parent, vegan, Native American, African American, and Muslim homeschoolers (the latter two, among others, claim to be the fastest growing segment of homeschoolers). The growth of online communication seems likely to only increase the available opportunities for networking and support moving forward.

Okay. But, do you not have any responses to the questions I asked in my comment?

You offer nothing but opinion. How about some facts? You have not addressed a single issue I raised.

What is your point?

Please save your breath. The Jesus you think you know is a figment of your imagination. Your post has nothing to do with the topic and if you continue to post off topic you will be blocked. Either address the issues or move to a more appropriate internet site.

There is nothing in the constitution that says fanatic christians are to rule the country according to the bible.

Don't blame "right wing Christian theocrats" for influencing the culture (basically what your article covers and how you disagree with it). They're doing what anyone else would do: promoting their beliefs/worldview/religion. I'd encourage you to stop complaining about their actions, because they aren't doing anything wrong.
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Except they are subversive and have a deliberate policy of working out of sight. You obviously did not pay attention to the many articles I referenced for substantiation. If these people believed in honest open debate and negotiation that would be a different matter. But they don't — in fact they are trained to view compromise and negotiation as weak. Who needs that when you are taking orders directly from god and anyone who disagrees is a tool of the devil.

Moral standards are not the exclusive domain of religious people, though they try hard to sell this bit of propaganda. Morality coerced is not genuine morality if private acts are motivated by thoughts of rewards or punishment in a supposed afterlife.

I have had many interchanges with homeschool advocates, both secular and religious. Not the zealots — I simply cannot stomach their delusions and like I say the hard core ones are not interested in an intellectually honest exchange.

FormerFundie

Richard, while I agree with the sentiments in your article, I believe you should correct the first sentence to read: Until the 1980s homeschooling was a benign activity that *affected* very few children.

Richard Collins

Thanks for taking the time to comment. I appreciate helpful criticisms.

Question- you claimed "It is a fact that the census data shows 75% of parents say there reason for homeschooling was religion. Until the laws are strenghtened regarding reporting no one can say with certainty how many children are sequestered for religious "education" purposes."

Which census data is that? I wasn't aware the census asked questions about homeschooling.

And a point- there is absolutely ZERO reason to suppose that homeschooling for religious reasons= sequestering and isolating children. That is a baseless assumption on your part. There are parents who homeschool for religious reasons who are pagans, Jews, and other nonChristian, non fundamentalist reasons.

Jeremy White

Mr. Collins:

Your ignorance and namecalling are laughable. I was both homeschooled, sheltered from what my parents viewe as harmful, received my B.A. from state university, and am now in Law School, at age 20. You say:

“There is no effort to teach the children how to reason or make moral judgments based on logic; morality lessons consist of picked over biblical dogma.”

I’m quite afraid this truly show the world how ignorant and un-educated you are; at least with referene to homeschooling. You refer to homeschooling as a “warped religious soaked system.” The fact is that public education is exactly the same. Rather than being a “warped” Judeo-Christian system, it is a warped Religious-Humanism institution.

The sad fact is this: whether you realize it or not, you also are a dominionist. You simply desire the dominion of a different religion. I can completely comprehend where your coming from, and why your article is so filled with hatred. You despise Christianity; you vehemently hate the idea of a God.

Lastly, to dispel the idea of a “theocracy”: while many anti-Christians (such as yourself) claim that we are intent on establishing a theocracy, I’m afraid most couldn’t even define a theocracy. A theocracy is the ruling of a nation directly by God (i.e. God speaking through someone to a people, telling them what to do.) There are virtually no Christians who advocate this position. What we do advocate is the structuring of a govenrment and laws according to the morality and ethics as laid out in the Bible. The structure of government we have now in this country is the best on earth. Christians are not intent on “destorying democracy.”

I hope that next time you need to vent, you might do your research first. Perhaps get to know some Christian homeschoolers. You will still hate them, because you hate their religion. But you will find that by and large Christian homeschoolers are better prepared to be moral, ethical, honest, upstanding citizens of the United States than anyone the government schools can churn out.

Sincerely,

Jeremy White

Jeremy White

Pardon the 3 or 4 mispellings in my last post. I didn’t have time to proofread it, as was almost midnight here in VA, and a full day of legal study left me exhausted.

Jeremy

Samuel Sefzik

So Mr. Collins, why are you so worried about these PHC students if they "don't believe in honest debate" and "will not advocate a public position" They are obviously doing just that with the type of influence they have had!
Another point, just as a sidenote is that George Bush did NOT "Open the doors of government to PHC graduates." They have always had the right to participate in government and always should.

So, your two points contradict themselves. Why should we be worrying about these people if they are simply "hiding under rocks like cockroaches" and won't advocate a public position? Patrick Henry students are obviously the complete opposite of what you are saying!

Samuel Sefzik

No, but you are clearly overreacting Mr. Collins. The Constitution states:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Clearly it is not saying Christians should "Rule the country" but instead gives equal rights to all.
Your claims are very outlandish.

Samuel Sefzik

Why do you believe that we should have exact statistics on everyone? We should have the right to keep our information private if it be our will.

2. As you said, you are not making an argument that homeschoolers "underperform" So why be so worried?

3. I guess there's no such thing as a typical "public schooler" either. Every kid is different and for many, being educated at home might be a better solution. Why should the government have an educational monopoly? Why impede on people's freedom if they are not causing any damage? You claimed yourself that they don't even advocate a public position, so what damage would they be causing?

Richard Collins

Samuel,
Where do I argue that we must have "exact statistics on everyone"? HSLDA makes claims about the "average homeschooler". The Indiana researchers are simply saying there is no "average homeschooler" so far as they can tell. You are chasing a bogus argument.

I have stressed that performance is not the issue. The issue is religious zealots using homeschools to sequester their children and raise them to hate their country and the open society. Since the children have no countervailing opinions, they will accept what their parents feed them without question. This is a recipe for disaster.

If the articles and books I offer as substantiation are not convincing perhaps it is because you did not read any of the material. Is this what you learned in law school? Study only one side of the case?

Sham home school parents have a postiion. They are simply too cowardly and afraid to announce it openly. Probably out of fear for their personal safety, but for sure because they are trying to be clandestine. Nevermind that a lot of people are on to them.

Richard Collins

You need to read more carefully or I did not emphasize strongly enough that I was talking about sham home schools.

Samuel Sefzik

You are simply regurgitating the same rhetoric over and over again Mr. Collins. You never clearly defined what you think a "sham homeschool" is. You have said yourself that we are not discussing the educational merit of homeschooling, only the fact that they do not necessarily share the same belief system as you.
With that in mind we can conclude that you are only blogging about your opinion, as most of your assertions come from the seemingly obvious fact that you don't care for Christian ideals.
I believe Jeremy White's comment below sums it up perfectly.

Samuel Sefzik

Haha! "Helpful Criticism" You mean any post that agrees with your warped worldview and doesn't reveal your faulty logic?

Jeremy needs to think harder about what religion and theocracy really mean.

Dawn

You certainly do not have the vocab of a gov't school student!

Julia

Outstanding!

Naomi

I personally experienced "sequestered children constantly supervised by zealous despotic parents, the indoctrination of a backward debauched religion can take place 24 hours a day seven days a week," along with dozens of my homeschooled peers. THANK YOU for being a voice for homeschool regulation and the prevention of child abuse. I created a Facebook page "The Dark Side of Homeschooling" to address these issues.

Could you leave us a link to your Facebook page?

Richard Collins

Get some rest and come back refreshed and with an open mind.

Richard Collins

Thank you for your activist spirit. You and others like you hold the key to ending this travesty against children.

Richard Collins

I am having difficulty getting facebook to show me your group. I found it one time, but now I cannot find it again.

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