Comments on: Female Circumcision http://www.endhereditaryreligion.com/2009/04/female-circumcision/ Information clearinghouse for research and information about child religious freedom rights. Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:15:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Charles http://www.endhereditaryreligion.com/2009/04/female-circumcision/comment-page-1/#comment-72859 Charles Mon, 05 Sep 2011 16:13:52 +0000 http://www.endhereditaryreligion.com/?p=531#comment-72859 It's starkly incredible that in America the anatomy of one sex, to whom 14th Amendment rights of equal protection clearly apply as well as to the counterpart sex, can be savagely attacked, and the courts and legislatures ignore the sex crime, child abuse, rape, mayhem, aggravated battery, risk of infection, death, and needless sex change surgery, all because certain interests have so much financial power and flex that power with shattering effect. This is more severe than a woman being raped, because she typically does not lose a body part. It is approximating the absurdity of ophthalmologists removing eyelids--and only from male children. An adult male is within his rights to kill anyone attempting to cut off part of his body against his will. Children have an existence separate from their parents, and are not mere chattels of their parents, whose attitude is often "because dad had a car wreck, junior should also have to have one." It's starkly incredible that in America the anatomy of one sex, to whom 14th Amendment rights of equal protection clearly apply as well as to the counterpart sex, can be savagely attacked, and the courts and legislatures ignore the sex crime, child abuse, rape, mayhem, aggravated battery, risk of infection, death, and needless sex change surgery, all because certain interests have so much financial power and flex that power with shattering effect. This is more severe than a woman being raped, because she typically does not lose a body part. It is approximating the absurdity of ophthalmologists removing eyelids–and only from male children. An adult male is within his rights to kill anyone attempting to cut off part of his body against his will. Children have an existence separate from their parents, and are not mere chattels of their parents, whose attitude is often "because dad had a car wreck, junior should also have to have one."

]]> By: sirius http://www.endhereditaryreligion.com/2009/04/female-circumcision/comment-page-1/#comment-2603 sirius Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:40:09 +0000 http://www.endhereditaryreligion.com/?p=531#comment-2603 The form of female circumcision practiced in Indonesia, where these photographers were taken, is far less damaging than male circumcision, and the sensational captions here are misleading to say the least. Read the article as it appears in the New York Times. Parents in Indonesia clearly don't see this as mutilation: the mother has a genuine smile. The reasons given for circumcision here are the same as for male circumcision: it looks better; it reduces odors; it prevents urinary tract infection and cancer; it's just a flap of skin; it's a parental right; if it were really so bad, it would have died out. After all, it's women who do the cutting, so they would know if they're missing anything. And so on, i.e. the exact same reasons given for male circumcision. The only people pushing circumcision - female or male - are those who are circumcised, along with their male and female proxies. Circumcision is a powerful cultural practice, because once a man, for example, has lost part of his penis, usually without his consent, he will tend to be either deny it - "I'm not missing anything" - or vehemently insist that all boys be mutilated the same way. Circumcision is psychosexual disease that is passed from one mutilated generation to the next. The form of female circumcision practiced in Indonesia, where these photographers were taken, is far less damaging than male circumcision, and the sensational captions here are misleading to say the least. Read the article as it appears in the New York Times. Parents in Indonesia clearly don't see this as mutilation: the mother has a genuine smile. The reasons given for circumcision here are the same as for male circumcision: it looks better; it reduces odors; it prevents urinary tract infection and cancer; it's just a flap of skin; it's a parental right; if it were really so bad, it would have died out. After all, it's women who do the cutting, so they would know if they're missing anything. And so on, i.e. the exact same reasons given for male circumcision.

The only people pushing circumcision – female or male – are those who are circumcised, along with their male and female proxies. Circumcision is a powerful cultural practice, because once a man, for example, has lost part of his penis, usually without his consent, he will tend to be either deny it – "I'm not missing anything" – or vehemently insist that all boys be mutilated the same way. Circumcision is psychosexual disease that is passed from one mutilated generation to the next.

]]> By: James Tracy http://www.endhereditaryreligion.com/2009/04/female-circumcision/comment-page-1/#comment-2301 James Tracy Thu, 28 May 2009 06:20:39 +0000 http://www.endhereditaryreligion.com/?p=531#comment-2301 At least male circumcision isn't done for the express purpose of removing any possibility of feeling pleasure (not that there seems to be any good reason to perform it anyway). The idea that God should require his chosen men to lop off a piece of their body that God himself designed for them, though, is still quite batty. At least male circumcision isn't done for the express purpose of removing any possibility of feeling pleasure (not that there seems to be any good reason to perform it anyway). The idea that God should require his chosen men to lop off a piece of their body that God himself designed for them, though, is still quite batty.

]]> By: Valerie Kelley http://www.endhereditaryreligion.com/2009/04/female-circumcision/comment-page-1/#comment-2300 Valerie Kelley Thu, 28 May 2009 06:15:58 +0000 http://www.endhereditaryreligion.com/?p=531#comment-2300 This is awful. Personally, I find male circumcision just as atrocious. The only reason I think there are so many people in the Western world who do not see it that way is because for Jews and many Christians, it's part of their religion and has been for too many thousands of years too many. There are many reasons males and females have the body parts they do, and it is sheer stupidity to lop any part of the body off unless death or other very serious consequeces will result if it is not done. (For example, a tonsilectomy or appendectomy can be justified if the person who received the surgery was so seriously ill that the surgery was necessary. That is almost never the case with this circumcision nonsense.) This is awful. Personally, I find male circumcision just as atrocious. The only reason I think there are so many people in the Western world who do not see it that way is because for Jews and many Christians, it's part of their religion and has been for too many thousands of years too many. There are many reasons males and females have the body parts they do, and it is sheer stupidity to lop any part of the body off unless death or other very serious consequeces will result if it is not done. (For example, a tonsilectomy or appendectomy can be justified if the person who received the surgery was so seriously ill that the surgery was necessary. That is almost never the case with this circumcision nonsense.)

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